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Thursday, November 16, 2006

Farmers Branch: I wish I never knew you

Forgive me for barging in to the Houseflies domain after going so long with nothing useful to contribute. But I finally have something to talk about.

Larry James contributed to our blog some time ago. For those that don’t remember, James serves as the President/CEO for Central Dallas Ministries, “a human community development corporation with a focus on economic and social justice at work in inner city Dallas.”

On his blog today, he put forth a great articulation of my hunch that most Americans are ignorantly nodding their heads in agreement with bigotry, and I’m sick of it.

I’m sick of the pundis that portray “illegals” as greedy, criminals that weasel their way in to our country taking jobs from deserving Americans.

I was repulsed to see the portrayals of immigration in the Pennsylvania Senate race. Does Pennsylvania really have an imminent threat of border jumpers? Take a look at the tone from the front lines of the issue in places like California (this link is well worth the read!) and Arizona. The term “illegals” is almost universally replaced by the moniker “migrants.” In a previous post James questioned, “How can a human being be illegal?”

Enter Farmers Branch, Texas. Growing up I considered Farmers Branch Church of Christ my surrogate church. They hosted a youth leadership conference I attended from 8th grade until my college years.

In James’ post he discusses FB’s new attempt to crack down on these illegals. I find it noisome, this legislation led by FBCoC member, Tim O’Hare.

Where is the compassion? Where is the concern for humanity?

I don’t profess to be the most informed person on the history and origins of our border issues, but I know racism when I see it.

James makes excellent points about the notion that migrants take from “hard working Americans.” Even though, as Larry points out, they pay sales tax, contribute to property tax. If employed, they contribute to social security with no expectation of return.

When it comes to the security concerns of our porous border, our elected officials certainly have a difficult problem on their hands. However, they ran for office to deal with the tough problems facing our country.

When they resort to preying on American jingoism and xenophobia, I don’t know whether to fight, cry or puke.

11 Comments:

Blogger Terry Austin said...

DeJon, I read LJ's post on the subject earlier this morning. I immediately thought of Michael's as-yet-unfulfilled pledge to write more about illegal immigration here.

James' post today was a breath of fresh air regarding Christians' treatment of illegal aliens. Everything -- and I mean everything -- I've seen or heard from a "Christian" perspective to this point was a Romans 13 slash render-unto-Caesar approach. Always hard to question motives of people we don't know, but I suspect the issues you noted (racism, xenophobia, jingoism) are certainly at play here.

In the church.

Yuck.

12:56 PM  
Blogger juvenal_urbino said...

I guess I should speak my piece on this issue and count to 3.

First off, I agree that most of the current immigration rhubarb is the product of racism, pure and undefiled. America has always had its Know-Nothings, still does, and probably always will. (Sometimes, they're still even taken semi-seriously as presidential candidates, e.g., Pat Buchanan.) Most of us will probably see one or two of them at family gatherings over the coming holiday season. Fa-la-la-la-la la-la la blech.

OTOH, I hear people on the other side of the issue saying, "This is a nation of immigrants. Immigrants built this country." My beef with that response is that it conflates legal immigration, which did indeed build this nation, and illegal immigration, which did not.

My objection to illegal immigration is no more or less than this: this nation, our society, and our form of government is, at its foundation, a social contract, an agreement to live together peacfully under a certain set of rules and procedures; one cannot join that social contract by violating it.

I am, therefore, rather hardnosed about illegal immigration. It should be a crime. Illegal immigrants should not be incorporated into our social institutions. They shouldn't get Social Security cards or pay Social Security taxes. They shouldn't pay property taxes (or own property in the first place) or be educated in the public schools. They shouldn't have access to social services. Strictly speaking, they shouldn't pay sales taxes, though I have no idea how that could be enforced. It sounds harsh, but none of our constitutional rights, rules, and protections should apply to them; they are not part of the society of which the Constitution is cognizant.

The however-many-millions of illegal immigrants in this country who work much harder than I do and are trying to make decent, new lives for themselves and their families should be welcomed with open arms in this country, once they follow the laws regarding how they come to this country.

If our legal immigration system is broken -- and it is -- we need to fix it; if the Dems want to address the illegal immigration problem, that would be a great place to start. But the fact remains that one cannot join a society by violating its laws, and anyone who came here in violation of those laws has voluntarily put him- or herself wholly outside the law. ISTM that person has no reasonable expectation of anything.

1:59 PM  
Blogger juvenal_urbino said...

JU, I couldn't agree with you more from a practical and legal standpoint, even if it kind of makes me sick to think about.

It makes you kind of sick to think about agreeing with me? :)

2:58 PM  
Blogger Terry Austin said...

OK, so if we're talking about this from a CHURCH perspective and not a political one, do juvenal and whitney come down on the "submission to authorities" side of this discussion?

(I do recognize it's difficult or impossible to strip out the political and legal concerns in this discussion, but give it a whirl!)

3:10 PM  
Blogger Terry Austin said...

Most of us will probably see one or two of them at family gatherings over the coming holiday season.

C'mon, we want names!

3:11 PM  
Blogger juvenal_urbino said...

Just funnin' you, Whitney.

OK, so if we're talking about this from a CHURCH perspective and not a political one, do juvenal and whitney come down on the "submission to authorities" side of this discussion?

I'm nothing if not submissive to authorities.

3:32 PM  
Blogger DeJon Redd said...

I am really fighting the urge to dive in to the perverted theology that results in FB's legislation.

Its too easy to find the irony in these types of people cloaking themselves in the robe of "compassionate conservativism."

Larry James included scriptures that people like Pat Buchanan and Tim O'Hare ripped out of their Bibles years ago.

3:40 PM  
Blogger DeJon Redd said...

Here's a political question I ponder from time to time...

As we continue to sink billions in to Afghanistan and Iraq, I wonder how much we've invested in Mexico and Central American countries.

I'm not suggesting we should have resorted to preemptive military strikes against these countries to ameliorate our immigration problems, but it does seem to me another glaring example of America's condescending attitude towards the poor.

Is investing in Mexican, et al. economies not a more humane (albeit indirect) way to address the problem that vexes the great citizens of Pennsylvania?

3:49 PM  
Blogger juvenal_urbino said...

I'm not sure I see your point, DeJon.

From the purely humanitarian perspective of ameliorating poverty, there's probably at least as much work to be done in Afghanistan as in Mexico. But, of course, that's not why we're there.

A more serious answer to Terry's question about the church's proper response to all this:

ISTM the church should treat everyone it encounters with the same love and respect. Show hospitality to the stranger in your land -- I think that's in there somewhere.

There was a major effort by some American churches during the 1980s to provide asylum here for Central American refugees, which is definitely worth remembering in this context. I can't seem to find a site directly on point, just now, but here and here are a couple that get at the basic idea. (The latter is more about political policy than church action, but it discusses the American Baptist Churches v. Thornburgh case, which was a product of what I'm talking about.)

5:11 PM  
Blogger Michael Lasley said...

One of the reasons I'm having a problem writing my long-awaited (by Terry) thingy about migrant farm workers has to do with the social contract that JU brings up. Theoretically and in a vacuum, I actually agree with JU. In practice and when democratic theory is in play with the free market, I don't think it's as relevant an argument. Looking at the "benefits received" by illegal immigrants is only ONE side of the social contract. The OTHER side is that, well, if those of us here legally want to buy fruits and vegetables (or go to hotels or receive a lot of the other services we receive relatively cheaply because of immigrants who arrive here illegally) and keep paying the same prices we are paying now, how are we not in also breaking the social contract? (On the fruits and veggies front, we'd probably pay at least 5 times what we're paying now.) We are benefiting from the labor yet we get all flustered if those we are benefiting from get any benefits.

I'm not saying I don't agree with the idea of the social contract, because it is so important to the development of our democracy. I just don't think it should be the only lens through which we view immigration now.

And another thing I'd disagree with JU about, and I know this isn't a new point on my part, but I'm not sure we can argue that the US was founded solely on legal immigration. The whole colony thing aside, I have a feeling there was a lot of illegal immigration going on for a large chunk of our history (of course, I have NO evidence of this -- I'm just guessing -- so I will be way willing to take it back if someone actually knows something about this -- plus I'll do some homework on it my own self).

I know I'm rambling, and I really will try to gather my thoughts on this this weekend and post what it before I head home for Thanksgiving.

11:14 AM  
Blogger juvenal_urbino said...

Looking at the "benefits received" by illegal immigrants is only ONE side of the social contract.

In fairness to myself, I wasn't just looking at the "benfits received" side of the ledger. I also said they shouldn't pay any taxes.

We are benefiting from the labor yet we get all flustered if those we are benefiting from get any benefits.

I agree that we consumers benefit from the cheap labor, and that would stop if illegal immigrant labor weren't available. I disagree, though, that it puts anyone who buys produce in violation of the social contract. The choice to artificially deflate the cost of produce is made by those who hire illegals to undercut their competition, thereby forcing those competitors to hire illegals to keep up. It's a classic race to the bottom; a classic market failure.

Many things in this country have artificially low prices because some of the costs are transferred from the producer/consumer to society at large, gasoline being perhaps the most obvious example. The impact of illegal labor on the prices of various goods and services is another. I don't know that the net effect of any cost transfer on the economy as a whole is positive, though. ISTM the cost to the economy is the same, regardless of whether consumers pay it at the supermarket or in some other way. Plus, and I'm no economist, but I'd think the wages paid to illegals constitute a "leak" from the total economy.

I see your point, though.

1:17 PM  

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